rbus

what avantgarde style grille is of better quality, looks, and fit for a 95' C280?

Rincewind

oem~

tpliquid

rbus man!!!
OEM best quality.

or just get the bekkers.!!!!!!!!

Rincewind

If you read the PREVIOUS avantgarde grill thread
you'd know that the bekkers grills are replicas

they might have the serial number, but its not the oem part. it says replica on their web and their service guy says its a replica. the inner grill area is black, not grey (oem). and there isnt a mercedes logo beside the serial number on the bekkers grill. its not cut professionally by mercedes, so the fitment varies. from other posters it seems to be a 50/50 chance you get a good fitting grill from bekkers.

donno about the schatz grill, but like tp said, oem best quality

Rincewind

Took these pictures just for you, rbus, since you dont read over previous threads where this was talked about. I will show you so you can see for yourself.

Here is a replica avantgarde grill that I ordered a week ago, there is no box, no manual, no screws, no mounting brackets, just the grill insert.



Here is the inner grill area, bottom left corner, where the serial number and manufactuerer is usually displayed. Hmm, no mercedes logo, it says, "HOLI" instead. The part number thats displayed is indeed infact a mercedes part number, but its not made by mercedes, obviously.



I noticed the fine quality of this grill when I saw how the chrome strips were not aligned correctly to the black inner grill. See how it sticks straight up like that? You can bet its not going to stay in place. I gently touched it and it was wobbly and moving around, most likely after some normal wear and tear you will be forced to super glue this to make it stay.



Aside from all the other previous things, lets see how well this will fit! Examine and take note of the outer area of this grill, the edges look like they were trimmed with a handsaw and broken off to finish the job. The black plastic area has broken off chips and fragments on the edges and in some cases shreds of it are still sticking off from the sides.



Same thing as I said before, just another pic of the other side. Judge for yourself if you want to buy this grill for 90 bucks or 109 bucks from bekkers or performance products etc. I sure as hell wouldnt. OEM is OEM. best quality, nuff said. 265.00 for oem is a hella good deal, considering scorchie and narcie got theirs for alot more. ask them how much they paid for it.




Like I said in my previous thread, here is what the OEM AVANTGARDE GRILL FOR THE W202 looks like. courtesy of scorchie for providing such a detailed guide

http://www.blancmange.com/scorchie/MBZ/GRILL/

Rincewind

I dont know about the schatz grill as I didnt order one, but im not going to waste my time or money ordering it to find out if its good quality.

luckily I could return the crap grill I got with full shipping refund... my oem grill is on order now, should be here in a week. I'll post pics of it + install on my c230.

Rincewind

oem one comes with everything.


box, instructions from mercedes, screws, mounting bracket, etc.

scorchie

And nice smooth edges. (Well, they are obviously cut with a bandsaw-like device, but one with fine teeth that don't leave a rough edge).

Also, notice how the chrome strips are cut BACK from the edge of the plastic. This allows the strips to sit FLUSH with the grill frame, and not below it. Then the plastic sits behind the grill frame, and the strips can't move side to side (like on most other people's).

-s-

MikeL

where can i get this grill at? and for how much?

pl3az3r

where can i get this grill at? and for how much?,
i lived in southern california,
and what do you guys thinking of eyelids from kamei?
my car is c230 k 2000, and i'd really love to get fog light on my lowered bumper like c43 or c32 , is it possible? because i ve tried to put after market fog lights and it look really ugly.

Ashkan's C43

is formymercedes a crap grill?, and where do I order oem grill, and is bekkers crap clear corners or real ones?