99 E430 vs 97 Cadillac STS

hubert · 06-08-2003, 08:28 PM

What are my chances of smoking that Caddy. I have Evo Sport pulleys and Carlsson rear muffler. Anybody raced that car before.
Thanx.

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E-Klasse · 06-09-2003, 08:33 AM

97 Cadillac STS, 4.6-liter dual-cam Northstar engine, 300 horsepower, 4-speed automatic transmission adopted electronic controls. The reviews say that it is strong against such imported rivals as the BMW 740iL, Lexus LS 400, and Infiniti Q45

My father-inlaw has the SLS with only 275 horsepower and it is fast. You might want to race against the SLS instead.

michakaveli · 06-09-2003, 08:03 PM

My friend has a 2001 Caddy STS and I just test drove a 2001 E430, and I'd have to say that both are fast, but the Caddy gives a lot more of the "seat in pants" feel. The 430 is more luxiurous while the Caddy I feel is a equivalent performer at a better price...

My $.02

E-Klasse · 06-09-2003, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hubert
What are my chances of smoking that Caddy. I have Evo Sport pulleys and Carlsson rear muffler. Anybody raced that car before.
Thanx.

Sounds like you wants to race against the STS and not buy it. Performance wise the E430 stacks up better against the SLS but with your modifications you might be close to the STS. Have you put your Benz on a Dyno and checked what the mods have added? Any change to your air intake like adding a K&N filter?

hubert · 06-10-2003, 10:18 PM

Yes i have K&N drop in filter. I think i will smoke him saturday is race day against American luxury.

E-Klasse · 06-10-2003, 11:39 PM

Keep up posted...

jimmydagreek · 06-11-2003, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hubert
Yes i have K&N drop in filter. I think i will smoke him saturday is race day against American luxury.

Much luck on the race! Kick his a**!!!

Don't forget to keep us posted, no matter the outcome...

hubert · 06-11-2003, 05:51 PM

Toly problem is that i'm running Carlsson 2/6 19 wit 275 in the rear and he has stock 16 wheels on that Caddy meaby if i put my stock 16 for race i'll win.

sosh · 06-11-2003, 07:39 PM

I owned a Cadillac STS in the mid 90's. It was the car that made me decide never to purchase another GM car. By far it was the worst automotive experience I have ever had and in my lifetime I have owned over 40 cars. This bad experience was from all angles, from dealer support/service to quality of the components to fit and finish.

JBroad572 · 06-12-2003, 09:39 PM

The stock 0-60 and 1/4 mile times favor the E430 over the Caddy. So with your mods you shouldn't have a problem. I wouldn't believe.

pocholin · 06-12-2003, 11:15 PM

Good luck, I've raced the STS, and although I've smoked it before, it gave me a pretty good run till about 40, please do keep us posted.

hubert · 06-13-2003, 07:11 PM

Nice weather comming up for saturday (race day) in NY. LETS SMOKE SOME AMERICAN CARS

jimmydagreek · 06-13-2003, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hubert
Nice weather comming up for saturday (race day) in NY. LETS SMOKE SOME AMERICAN CARS

Keep us posted and good luck!

hubert · 06-14-2003, 05:43 PM

Ok guyits done Americkan car got kickted by my 1999 E430 was not easy byt i did it. We had 3 runs after firs one it looked that its going to be a tie but i smoked it by 1 car and the other two was better for my car i left him behind for like 3 cars. I'v also rased 1998 SC400 but this junk was even esier than the Caddy. So thats it too bad i dont have the video.
Thank too all of you.
Enjoy you E CLASSES THEY ARE GREATTTTTTTTTTT>>>

JBroad572 · 06-14-2003, 09:23 PM

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pocholin · 06-14-2003, 09:38 PM

Great! but 3 cars lenght? to what speed?
Those caddys aren't that fast, but neither are E430s, either way, congratulation

E-Klasse · 06-15-2003, 01:19 PM

Was this track racing or on the street? Did you race him for pink slips?

hubert · 06-15-2003, 07:26 PM

About 3 cars but the point is that i smoked that Caddy. No pink slips rather drive a Hyundai to work than that Caddy.
What are my chances with BMW540. It was a street race but it was like 1/4 of a mile meaby even more.

jimmydagreek · 06-16-2003, 01:25 AM

Great news! I wish someone would've taped it though. Anyway, I am also curious to know at what speed you ended up in front of him by 3 car lengths?

zmirza · 06-20-2003, 04:29 PM

Your chances with BMW 540 are not good as they were with STS.

BMW 540 has more horse power than what we have. Their sport class has Less body roll than ours.

If that BMW is a 6 spd than I wouldn't even think about it unless if you have done something to your benz.

Guys - Just to clarify, I am am not knocking down Benz. I OWN ONE and am very happy with it.

I think if you want class then own a Benz
If you want performance then own a BMW

Thats my opinion You could totaly disagree with me

hubert · 06-21-2003, 05:57 PM

Yeah i agree with zimrza but the other thing is BMW engines are so maxed out from factory that you cant do nothing to them performance wise i mean you could but its very expensive and you got to do engine work. Benzes on the other hand you can add like 100 to 150 HP with a SC and you dont have to open your engine. Thats why i bought a BENZ.

jmprecisionauto · 07-01-2003, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hubert
Yeah i agree with zimrza but the other thing is BMW engines are so maxed out from factory that you cant do nothing to them performance wise i mean you could but its very expensive and you got to do engine work. Benzes on the other hand you can add like 100 to 150 HP with a SC and you dont have to open your engine. Thats why i bought a BENZ.

There are companies that make SC's for the bimmers too. www.esstuning.com and DINAN both make superchargers for the 540I. ESS makes SC's for the Benz' as well, they haven't updated their site yet.

egxpimp · 06-04-2004, 01:23 AM

guys i dont have an E class but i test drove a 5 series BMW....and it has NO power what so ever... NONE....i guess its due to me S class 500 SE gray market....but even that....i didnt feelt he power im dissapointed i think the E class will smoke it....

96STSGUY · 10-30-2005, 06:20 AM

I’ll take you on in my 96 STS here’s a few vids of it performing www.adumbrecords.com/hosting (Bone stock). 96 was the fastest year for this Caddy. The only way to modify is through the main computer, but the dealership will not do this, nor will anyone at Cadillac. One person who had his 96 STS modified in 1996 (see www.cadillacforums.com) hit 13.36 with a modified computer on the stock 300HP Northstar engine. The N* definitely has a lot of hidden power. I run consistent 14.5-14.8 in the ¼ and from a roll I’ve beat several cars I shouldn’t have (M3/GTO) etc. With good driving, I can take your car.

cruzajc1@yahoo.com

The Godfather · 10-30-2005, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96STSGUY

I’ll take you on in my 96 STS here’s a few vids of it performing www.adumbrecords.com/hosting (Bone stock). 96 was the fastest year for this Caddy. The only way to modify is through the main computer, but the dealership will not do this, nor will anyone at Cadillac. One person who had his 96 STS modified in 1996 (see www.cadillacforums.com) hit 13.36 with a modified computer on the stock 300HP Northstar engine. The N* definitely has a lot of hidden power. I run consistent 14.5-14.8 in the ¼ and from a roll I’ve beat several cars I shouldn’t have (M3/GTO) etc. With good driving, I can take your car.

cruzajc1@yahoo.com

LMAO. E430K vs STS..don't even try

06-09-2003, 08:33 AM	#2
E-Klasse MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 1,490 Drives: E-Class W210, SLK R170, Jetta MKV TDI, MINI Cooper S	97 Cadillac STS, 4.6-liter dual-cam Northstar engine, 300 horsepower, 4-speed automatic transmission adopted electronic controls. The reviews say that it is strong against such imported rivals as the BMW 740iL, Lexus LS 400, and Infiniti Q45 My father-inlaw has the SLS with only 275 horsepower and it is fast. You might want to race against the SLS instead. __________________ I assume no liability for any incidental, consequential or other liability from the use of this information. All risks and damages, incidental or otherwise, arising from the use or misuse of the information contained herein are entirely the responsibility of the user. Although careful precaution has been taken in the preparation of this information, I assume no responsibility for omissions or errors.

06-10-2003, 11:39 PM	#6
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06-12-2003, 11:15 PM	#11
pocholin Out Of Control!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nice & Hot & Humid H-town Posts: 20,166 Drives: Nissan Maxima SL	Good luck, I've raced the STS, and although I've smoked it before, it gave me a pretty good run till about 40, please do keep us posted. __________________ Naughty Boys Club, Member # 1 Former owner of: E55 AMG, 13.128 @ 105.74 also known as the Bootie Assasin! True post whore, and Lord of the Post Whores!

06-14-2003, 09:38 PM	#16
pocholin Out Of Control!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nice & Hot & Humid H-town Posts: 20,166 Drives: Nissan Maxima SL	Great! but 3 cars lenght? to what speed? Those caddys aren't that fast, but neither are E430s, either way, congratulation __________________ Naughty Boys Club, Member # 1 Former owner of: E55 AMG, 13.128 @ 105.74 also known as the Bootie Assasin! True post whore, and Lord of the Post Whores!

06-15-2003, 01:19 PM	#17
E-Klasse MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 1,490 Drives: E-Class W210, SLK R170, Jetta MKV TDI, MINI Cooper S	Race Was this track racing or on the street? Did you race him for pink slips? __________________ I assume no liability for any incidental, consequential or other liability from the use of this information. All risks and damages, incidental or otherwise, arising from the use or misuse of the information contained herein are entirely the responsibility of the user. Although careful precaution has been taken in the preparation of this information, I assume no responsibility for omissions or errors.

06-09-2003, 08:03 PM	#3
michakaveli MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,512 Drives: E300	My friend has a 2001 Caddy STS and I just test drove a 2001 E430, and I'd have to say that both are fast, but the Caddy gives a lot more of the "seat in pants" feel. The 430 is more luxiurous while the Caddy I feel is a equivalent performer at a better price... My $.02

06-10-2003, 10:18 PM	#5
hubert MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,258 Drives: E430 KLEEMANN	Yes i have K&N drop in filter. I think i will smoke him saturday is race day against American luxury.

06-11-2003, 05:51 PM	#8
hubert MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,258 Drives: E430 KLEEMANN	Toly problem is that i'm running Carlsson 2/6 19 wit 275 in the rear and he has stock 16 wheels on that Caddy meaby if i put my stock 16 for race i'll win.

06-11-2003, 07:39 PM	#9
sosh MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Philadelphia area Posts: 3,916 Drives: 2010 ML550, 2010 E350 4M, 1966 Corvette Convt C2	I owned a Cadillac STS in the mid 90's. It was the car that made me decide never to purchase another GM car. By far it was the worst automotive experience I have ever had and in my lifetime I have owned over 40 cars. This bad experience was from all angles, from dealer support/service to quality of the components to fit and finish.

06-12-2003, 09:39 PM	#10
JBroad572 Almost a Member! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 68	The stock 0-60 and 1/4 mile times favor the E430 over the Caddy. So with your mods you shouldn't have a problem. I wouldn't believe.

06-13-2003, 07:11 PM	#12
hubert MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,258 Drives: E430 KLEEMANN	Nice weather comming up for saturday (race day) in NY. LETS SMOKE SOME AMERICAN CARS

06-14-2003, 05:43 PM	#14
hubert MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,258 Drives: E430 KLEEMANN	Ok guyits done Americkan car got kickted by my 1999 E430 was not easy byt i did it. We had 3 runs after firs one it looked that its going to be a tie but i smoked it by 1 car and the other two was better for my car i left him behind for like 3 cars. I'v also rased 1998 SC400 but this junk was even esier than the Caddy. So thats it too bad i dont have the video. Thank too all of you. Enjoy you E CLASSES THEY ARE GREATTTTTTTTTTT>>>

06-14-2003, 09:23 PM	#15
JBroad572 Almost a Member! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 68	.

06-15-2003, 07:26 PM	#18
hubert MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,258 Drives: E430 KLEEMANN	About 3 cars but the point is that i smoked that Caddy. No pink slips rather drive a Hyundai to work than that Caddy. What are my chances with BMW540. It was a street race but it was like 1/4 of a mile meaby even more.

06-16-2003, 01:25 AM	#19
jimmydagreek MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SFV, SoCal Posts: 5,544 Drives: '04 Silverado Z71 - sold all my Benzes and need another!	CONGRATULATIONS! Great news! I wish someone would've taped it though. Anyway, I am also curious to know at what speed you ended up in front of him by 3 car lengths?

06-20-2003, 04:29 PM	#20
zmirza Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 77 Drives: 02 E55	Your chances with BMW 540 are not good as they were with STS. BMW 540 has more horse power than what we have. Their sport class has Less body roll than ours. If that BMW is a 6 spd than I wouldn't even think about it unless if you have done something to your benz. Guys - Just to clarify, I am am not knocking down Benz. I OWN ONE and am very happy with it. I think if you want class then own a Benz If you want performance then own a BMW Thats my opinion You could totaly disagree with me __________________ 02 E55 04 Yukon SLT 07 Accord EX 97 E420 Sport - Sold

06-21-2003, 05:57 PM	#21
hubert MBWorld Fanatic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,258 Drives: E430 KLEEMANN	Yeah i agree with zimrza but the other thing is BMW engines are so maxed out from factory that you cant do nothing to them performance wise i mean you could but its very expensive and you got to do engine work. Benzes on the other hand you can add like 100 to 150 HP with a SC and you dont have to open your engine. Thats why i bought a BENZ.

06-04-2004, 01:23 AM	#23
egxpimp Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Ferrari F1 Factory Posts: 5,775 Drives: F248 F1	guys i dont have an E class but i test drove a 5 series BMW....and it has NO power what so ever... NONE....i guess its due to me S class 500 SE gray market....but even that....i didnt feelt he power im dissapointed i think the E class will smoke it....

10-30-2005, 06:20 AM	#24
96STSGUY Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5	96 STS ready to battle your car I’ll take you on in my 96 STS here’s a few vids of it performing www.adumbrecords.com/hosting (Bone stock). 96 was the fastest year for this Caddy. The only way to modify is through the main computer, but the dealership will not do this, nor will anyone at Cadillac. One person who had his 96 STS modified in 1996 (see www.cadillacforums.com) hit 13.36 with a modified computer on the stock 300HP Northstar engine. The N* definitely has a lot of hidden power. I run consistent 14.5-14.8 in the ¼ and from a roll I’ve beat several cars I shouldn’t have (M3/GTO) etc. With good driving, I can take your car. cruzajc1@yahoo.com

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